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    Re: Windows 8: Good or Bad?

    Shane, what card do you have?

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    Re: Windows 8: Good or Bad?

    Is it true that FISHER PRICE designed the METRO UI ? It sure as hell looks like it. The good news is that MS will be supporting Win 7 for many years to come. I am sure by then that LINUX will have progressed enough for many to make the switch without having to turn their PCs into smartphones!
    If you like win8 then fine but I have this feeling that Win8 on PCs will make windows ME look like the Best OS ever.

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    Re: Windows 8: Good or Bad?

    Drew, the intel website has it listed Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family. People also call it x3100. Right now Microsoft has a beta driver wdm 1.1 for this driver. I switched to windows 7, I hover over where the start screen is located but its just the start button now lol, have to get used to not having a start screen anymore. I cant wait for some new progress with drivers and windows 8 I'll be waiting.

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    Re: Windows 8: Good or Bad?

    So, Shane, it's using Win7 HP x86, correct?

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    Re: Windows 8: Good or Bad?

    I do not know if Windows 8 is so-called good or bad
    It depends on your equipment and use

    I do know that after trying both release's for a good period of time, I will not be downgrading to it

    Reason's:
    I do not "search" for programs, I use the dreaded "start button" and "custom" desktop folders with sub-folders
    I have no intentions of learning pages of k/b shortcuts or "searching" for programs when a start button works just fine for me

    I do not "facebook, tweat or twitter, I am not a member of any so-called social networking site, I do not own a tablet or any touch screen device, I do not own a so-called "smart phone", I have a stupid phone and like it
    I therefore have nothing to sink in the "Metro" UI and am not interested in foolish "apps" from the Metro store

    I do not like the "Metro" UI, it is gaudy and gouch on a 24 inch HD monitor and appears childish to me

    In spite of the M/S spin, Windows 8 and "Metro" seem intended for play and those that feel a need to be in second by second 24/7 contact

    I work and game on my home built and frequently updated machine
    I will never, that's never have a "touch screen" on my pc unless forced to and then it will not be used as a touch screen
    I cannot work or game, reaching accross my work area to a vertical touch surface, never mind the finger prints, in my opinion, rediculous

    In the last month I have purchased Windows 7, 64 bit s/p 1 for my wife and I, have also downloaded and stored the so-called "legacy" programs that I use

    We will be using Windows 7 as long a possable

    I will not purchase Windows 8 or any future rendition there of willingly unless M/S puts the focus back on desk top p/c's for my desk top machine and lap top

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    Re: Windows 8: Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    So, Shane, it's using Win7 HP x86, correct?

    Drew

    I tried a number of video drivers from vista to win7, my laptop is lenovo thinkpad r61. I tried drivers from Lenovo and Intel websites, these drivers function to a certain point on windows 8, but fall short when video power is demanded thus causing glitching, freezing or stuttering in video and audio for a brief second, sometimes slowdowns will occur in videos and not play at full speed. I tried fixing these problems a number of ways but still failed to. Intel needs to release the x3100 windows 8 driver because the video card is capable of supporting windows 8 very good, they just need to make sure they look and correct certain problems like this so the driver works correctly.

    I went back to windows 7 and haven't had any problems like that, the same videos I tested play correctly with no issues. This is also true if I were to run vista, it seems the windows 8 system needs minor tweaks and correct video driver to function at its fullest on my system. Something I might be waiting untill August to see.
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    Re: Windows 8: Good or Bad?

    Yes, presently I can find no specific Win8 driver; oft what works on 7 will work on 8 but, not always w/ vid cards. May likely change for most hardware by RTM

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    Re: Windows 8: Good or Bad?

    Ken,

    One can, certainly, run whatever OS they chose or prefer, of course. I take nothing away from that.

    That said, I'd like to address a couple of things... not directed @ you, solely, but, just generally.

    Regardless of usage & gear, Windows8 remains inherently good. Gear & usage are separate from evaluations of an OS... 2 separate issues. The OS is, still, what it is. Not to mention, Windows8 does not need fancy gear.

    Windows8 is, absolutely, NOT primarily for games & fun stuff... may handle that well BUT, where it shines is its under-the-covers technologies & there is tons of it & design goals in building it that had an acute, intense eye on Power Users & enterprise concerns, as well.

    Because Windows8, by intent, works well on both mobile & stationary computing devices & because it is created w/ an eye to the future does not lessen how well it performs on regular desktop PCs & laptops.

    I, honestly, tire of a lot being said about the Win8 Start screen or time & thought being poured @ it. Windows8 works beautifully on a non-touch, conventional desktop PC or laptop. AND 100% w/out the Start Screen. I, & many others, live, work, play, navigate, do things, find things ALL on, from & @ (good ole) Desktop AND w/out leaving it to, unnecessarily, go to Start.

    Seeing Start as an 'issue', impedance or obstacle to Windows8 is not valid. "APPs" can be used or not... actually, we do use many & have been for a long time just, not in this 'style' or way of presenting.

    There is NO need for Touch w/ Windows8.

    Focus has not left Desktops or Laptops nor the desktop... there is 100% choice whether, to use Start or the traditional desktop.

    There is far more of value to Windows8 than any "Social Networking" aspects. And definitely much more of value to it than the Start screen. Its Start screen ought not mask an impressive OS that lies beyond & beneath it.

    The only thing I use Start for is to hit the Desktop tile @ Boot-up. That is not to say I don't occasionally use some apps but, I do not go to Start to do so.

    Whilst on Desktop, it is, indeed, quicker & easier to get @ many things than in any pre-Windows8 OS. AND that is w/out K/B shortcuts being used, @ all.

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    Re: Windows 8: Good or Bad?

    That is an accurate post Drew, Many think Windows 8 has to be about social networking and Apps but in fact it does not have to be. You have a choice to uninstall whatever you don't like and replace things with things you do like. I've seen videos of people who only put their desktop programs on the start screen and use it like the old start button.

    To my knowledge there is alot of features to windows 8 which are very similar to windows 7 just redesigned. Windows 7 is also very similar to Vista but improved, the differences between these OS's is at best a learning curve. Anyone who knows Windows will easily learn where to go and how to work things. I find learning older Windows more of a challenge then these newer ones. Take for instance win2000 and 98, you had to go through hell installing drivers and dealing with configuring networking. Most people turned to professionals because they didn't understand how to do things.

    Nowadays people complain just because it doesn't look how they would like which I understand that but in comparing newer windows to older windows, we are in an age where simplicity is a given. And everything is handed to us ready to use whereas before we spent hours setting a system up to do what we needed.

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    Re: Windows 8: Good or Bad?

    It seems that some people here keep trying to convince us that win 8 has much more features than win7. Perhaps they can tell us which and what they are? Win 8 is obviously a social media touch screen OS. There is nothing about it that is superior to Win 7 to justify people spending money on it. The best way I can describe Win 8 is that it is a "HIDE AND SEEK" OS designed by Fisher Price for people who care only for Facebook and Tweeter.

    The most noticeable thing Win 8 lacks is "INTUITION BASE". There is nothing intuitive about it and it is obvious that it will 100% fail. All the young people (Students) I speak with who have tried win8 basically say: "I already own a smartphone, why should I turn my PC into one?" or something to that tune.

    Let's face it; Many will love this new OS, especially the social media crowd who do nothing else with their PCs. Was it not bad enough that MS got rid of the option for classic menus in Win 7 (thank God for Classic Shell) that now they decided to get rid of a PC based OS?

    Win 7 will be the main OS for years to come while win 8 will sit n the shelves collecting dust! I honestly pray for win 8 to fail so that MS will finally stop feeding us new useless innovations just for the sake of unneeded change!

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