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Never mind things have moved on! LOL
except for, "the bad old days of vista", which IMO is not a bad OS, I still use it, not as often, but I still use it, because I like it and it runs great.Originally Posted by kemical
After ready the many, many replies and hearing I hate 7, or 8 and so-on, the thing I can't get over, are the ones who complain so much that the OS is no good or it doesn't do this or that and blame the OS for it faults, I've said it before and I'll say it again, "A computer is only infallible as its user." and there lies the true fault, the user.
So, to all the Windows bashers, think, before you condemn.
I thought 98SE was great, I skipped ME & 2000, went to XP and thought that was even greater, which it was, then Vista, what a vast improvement over XP (IMO), then 7 and now 8 and truthfully, never had a real issue with any of them and any that did crop up was my fault, not the OS.
I have also tried Ubuntu and a few others and I just thought them to be to difficult to use, it seemed like you have to go through hoops to get anything installed or to get from point A to B, I know it wasn't the OS, it was me, I was just too comfortable and familiar with Windows, which I still think is such an easy OS to install and configure to your own liking and the customizations are pretty much endless.
Well there you have it FWIW,
Don
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Never mind things have moved on! LOL
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My final conclusion is that windows 8 is not ready for prime time on the desktop. I uninstalled it on all my systems because the RP was too buggy and too cumbersome to operate - although it did everything I wanted to do, just with more effort than in /7.
I did keep only one copy running in Virtual Box so that I can follow the developments. But I doubt that this will ever be my future system. I rather use Ubuntu which is more convenient to operate.
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I am a computer tech, so I know a few things about them. When I first got my laptop it had a celeron 1.8ghz processor. Most people don't know that in some laptops the cpu can be changed out for a better one. So I put a Core 2 Duo of 2ghz in. I thought gaming would be better but I didn't realize that sometimes older games do not run properly on duo cores. I blamed the bad performance on Windows 7 which I really liked and never gave it a chance.
But I found out by playing with some settings in task manager that if you set it to one core, everything works much much better. No lags in my favorite games. Windows 7 is a good system I now use everyday, I update it and everything works like a champ. I always liked Win 7 but never gave it a chance since my games didn't run good. But it turned out I didn't know whole truth about why they weren't.
Windows 8 is pretty good, but its really not for me. I like it, but I also like 7. I know people will like Windows 8 and use it. Thats cool, lets not fight over which system is better. Lets just agree both are top notch and very good.
Last edited by Shane Black; 06-26-2012 at 12:18 PM.
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Also, being an IT Pro, myself, I agree, Shane. I will say, while I do like 7 & find it very good... I am beta testing Windows8 for MS (as I did Vista & 7), personally, do not find 8 full of bugs nor cumbersome & no more, if not less effort, than 7. Certainly this stuff can be extremely subjective. As for 7 on a non-touch, conventional Desktop, if the RP is any indication, Windows8 is definitely 'ready'
It remains to be seen if people are 'ready' for Windows8.
Cheers,
Drew
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If people are ready????? How about "If Microsoft is ready to fix win 7 and stop trying to give us a fisher price OS"? You simply do not seem to understand that not everyone has your knowledge on OS's. Not everyone is capable at customising his OS and certainly not everyone will even bother when faced with an OS that hides everything and forces you to use Microsoft mail amongst other things that only a monopoly could think of.
FIX THE DAMN WIN 7 with a Service Pack and release win 8 for smartphones and tablets ONLY! I for one will celebrate with a pint of stout when the media announces the grand failure of Win 8!
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Well, let's see... 1 st all, Win7 ain't broken... if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Win8 is so far away from being a 'toy' or plaything (Fisher-Price reference) it's not even funny. Things are not "hidden"... it's all, still, just Windows w/ a somewhat new & different approach. One does not need to be a tech to customize it, anymore than previous Windows OSs... and all of which can be done quickly & easily w/ no more than natively in the OS & much of that nothing we didn't already have at our disposal. There is nothing that "forces" use of MS Mail.
As for "for phones & tablets only", that would be missing the entire point of WinRT (not to be confused w/ Windows8 RT) & that is a computing platform that works into the future & across multiple devices from phones to servers (which includes Desktops & Laptops be they Touch OR NON-Touch.
Someday soon all this discussion will be behind us, WinRT will be the basis of Windows8, 9, 10... & out technological future. It all will get understood & accepted as the 'norm' in due course... for some quicker & more easily than others, of course.
Cheers,
Drew
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I use Windows 7 everday and find nothing wrong with it, what do you think needs to be fixed??? And you say release a service pack. They already released one, its SP1 just google it and you'll find it on Microsofts website.
With SP1 and important updates for stability there should be no issues with Windows 7.
Yeah, I meant only in the very beginning. Vista was fine if you had the right hardware in the first place..the bad old days of vista
Reading through the latest I.T. blogs and Tech magazines it would seem the industry or at least it's journalists are split down the middle when it comes to the advent of Windows 8, Surface and the small form factor. It seems Microsoft have had a masterplan all along and some are seeing this as almost visionary. It must also be said that others feel that this is Microsofts doom:
Reference:I disagree, however, with his claim that there’s serious potential for long-term disaster. It is true that, two years ago, I did foresee doom for Microsoft’s place in the home if they did not turn things around. Specifically, I claimed Windows PCs were in real danger of being displaced by tablets, smartphones, PCs, and TV devices running simpler, similar interfaces via Android or iOS. What changed? Microsoft is now turning things around by adopting their Metro interface across their entire line of tablets, smartphones, PCs, and TV devices. Boom.
Did Microsoft Look at OEM Designs Before Launching Surface?
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First of all "search filters" need fixing as they will only appear when searching in generic folders and not custom folders. The only way around this is to type "KIND:" followed by the type. Win XP had a better search. Also search in general does not always find what I am looking for and I have to do a manual search by opening one folder after another and visually search the contents.
Secondly the fact that the CLASSIC MENUS OPTION is missing needs to be addressed. Win 7 is also extremely finicky with hardware. Where XP installed without a hitch, win 7 failed to install unless a SATA cable was replaced and this on the same machine.
Thirdly anyone who thinks any OS does not need improvement is grossly mistaken. MS should improve Win 7 instead of releasing a totally different OS.
Fourth Win Live mail has BIG issues with photos and pictures and the fact that MICROSOFT MONOPOLY INCORPORATED is FORCING US TO USE THE AMERICAN SPELLING instead of the PROPER BRITISH is an anathema to the English language. This has not been fixed so far. By the way English is not my mother tongue but I will rather burn in hell than use the letter 'Z' instead of 'S'. I feel like smashing my monitor every time a CORRECTLY SPELT word is underlined in red.
By the way my American friends: METER is an INSTRUMENT and METRE is a UNIT OF MEASURE!
The arrogant ways of MS reminds me of another company and its downfall: IBM!
Last edited by tanzanos; 06-27-2012 at 02:03 AM.
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