I also read in an article today that the app store could well be getting PowerDVD. This is the kind of stuff I see making a difference to whats already there. Excellent little apps like this would be a great addition especially if free.
I have no complaints. I am using a 22" non-touch screen and like Drew it is working great. In fact I have taken Windows 7 out and just running with 8. I have no problems with Windows 7 but finding my response time with 8 somewhat faster.
I also read in an article today that the app store could well be getting PowerDVD. This is the kind of stuff I see making a difference to whats already there. Excellent little apps like this would be a great addition especially if free.
Back to you Kemical.
OK I played around with the Metro, as you have done. I have uninstalled all the full screen icons, as they are all replaceable by Non full screen third party add-ons. So now I have a (metro) start screen which, basically, is a graphical representation of my old Windows 7 start menu. Only problem so far is that I have to scroll over two and a half screens to see everything. Just looking through GPedit and the registry, to see if there is a way I can collapse those folders.

Cool, Sonny but, be prepared, eh? you'll have to put 7 back in sometime cus the 8 Beta will expire (unless, of course) you buy the GA when it's released. Just saying...
And, yes, there, certainly, is a performance gain w/ 8.
The PowerDVD would be great, as, currently, it's one of the few things (a DVD player) that needs to be added to the OS from outside it.
Dave,
Please, take a close look @ my screen shots, earlier in this thread. As I said & show, I only have (few) enough tiles that all can be seen w/out scrolling. Just because something exists or is installed does not mean a tile for it needs to be (kept) on Start. However, if, you create the Applications folder on the Taskbar ALL the applications (that the tiles represent) can be accessed directly from & while on Desktop w/out going to Start or leaving Desktop. When something goes on Start as a tile, that tile can be remove, to keet things 'tidy' & the # of tiles small BUT, that item will, still, be listed in the Applications folder. Additionally, never mind the Registry or any need to add 3rd party anything. The tiles not only can be removed, w/out sacrifice, but, they can be selected to be large or small... Rt Clk on 1 & bar @ bottom has an icon to do that. Plus, again, looking @ my screen shot, you can see they can be grouped, put in whatever Group & the Group named.
The shots are in entries # 8 & 10 of this thread.
Cheers,
Drew
I suppose you could cut the tiles down further as Drew suggests. That will stop you having to scroll although personally I don't mind having to do that.
The way I see Windows 8 (if I've have got this correctly) is that we have an os which is basically the same over three different form factors.
Phone, Tablet and PC.
I see Windows 8 being used slightly differently though with each form factor. Like for PC for example, where one would presume that the desktop will be used far more than say on a tablet or a phone where perhaps Metro apps would be more ideal.
Each form factor has it's own needs and requirements and it will be interesting to see how each field develops and whether it will be across the board or no.
Unless something turns sour in Windows 8 by the time it is on the market, I will be buying it. I am impressed. Will keep Windows 7 in my laptop for now.

It is impressive, Sonny...especially, technically, under-the-covers & the in practice results of same.
Damn, I've forgotten kem's name
I think your analysis is quite accurate...just a wee mention, Desktops (& laptops) can have Home, Pro, Ult & enterprise flavours BUT, phones & tablets get their own version called Windows8 RT. I would suggest, that reflects the somewhat slightly different & dedicated treatment for 1 group of devices vs the other yet, still, a cross-device OS... and that being 1 of the major design goals from the onset.
Cheers,
Drew
I have only seen mention of Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro (for x86 processors, 32 and 64 bit) and RT for ARM based devices. No mention that I can find regarding Home, Ultimate.
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b...-editions.aspx
Last edited by Trouble; 06-07-2012 at 06:18 PM.
Yesterday was, Today is, but ahh Tomorrow...mystery, suspense and a promise of hope.

Yes, I know better than what I wrote, too.My damn brain rattled that off out of habit or my fingers went faster than my brain or both. (bad excuse since, I'm a slow typist, lol) Yes, it's simplified, now... instead of the Baskin & Robbins flavours of the past, 8 is, indeed, just 2 flavours, 8 & Pro, plus Enterprise for Volume Licensing & RT for ARMs.
Thanks, Randy, for giving my head shake
Cheers,
Drew
Thank you for your input, Drew. (post#24), but I think you missed the point. My many posts must have escaped you. I have been having a thorough experience, experimenting with Third party menus, booting direct to the desktop, etc.
I have found It is quite impossible for anyone to offer solutions to individuals, unless they are familiar with their usage of the OS's. As I am obliged to install and customise, for others, over and over again, I am attempting to find the solution for the majority, who are interested in Windows 8, but do not want to many alarming changes. I have found that most of those I deal with, have become accustomed to the old menu, with their individual shortcuts/.exes, wrapped inside those folders. They are in the category of "no longer young, but still have the spark to show an interest in moving on, and in the metro menu..
The post you referred to, was an individual discussion between myself and Kemical, on the possible benefits of trying to simplify the Start menu so that it's use is more normalised. removing what Microsoft, or the system, has placed there, is defeating that object.
The performance benefits for the people (not wealthy) that I help, are so marginal, that I need a damn good argument to convince them that they should move on to Windows 8. One way to do this, I perceive, is to get those icons into closed folders, so that they are then looking at a pretty graphical representation of their more familiar, old, start menu.
From Kemical "I suppose you could cut the tiles down further as Drew suggests. That will stop you having to scroll although personally I don't mind having to do that."
I have looked at your numerous screenshots, in this and other threads. No rudeness intended, but I see no move forward from the metro screen to that cluttered desktop you are showing.
I the Beta discussion sites, you can see quite a lot of support for my comments on having folders. I don't claim originality for the idea, but it does seem to be in favour.
I believe, in a nutshell, that what I am trying to do, is make a Windows 8 installation 100% workable for those without touchscreens, using only its built in facilities.