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    Re: Windows 8 keeps BSOD when using P2P and surfing net

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny View Post
    I had the same problem and it turned out to be a power surge. I don't know if that is your problem but might be a start. I don't know why but once I switched outlets to plug into, I haven't had anymore problems.
    I have changed another outlet to test. Thanks to the advice

    RE: Usasma

    Thanks again for spend time to reply~!

    May be I forgot to uninstall core temp and MSi , Since these two are important to me in playing pc games =]
    I have totally uninstalled AMD things in the Control Panel right now. And I have disabled the on-board ATI display card in the BIOs, So I do not have to installed ATI video card driver back right?

    I have run prime 95 for about 2 hours without any error one week ago. These are the result:

    [Wed Jan 23 14:35:44 2013]
    Self-test 1024K passed!
    Self-test 1024K passed!
    Self-test 1024K passed!
    [Wed Jan 23 14:51:01 2013]
    Self-test 8K passed!
    Self-test 8K passed!
    Self-test 8K passed!
    [Wed Jan 23 15:06:12 2013]
    Self-test 10K passed!
    Self-test 10K passed!
    Self-test 10K passed!
    [Wed Jan 23 15:22:09 2013]
    Self-test 896K passed!
    Self-test 896K passed!
    Self-test 896K passed!
    [Wed Jan 23 15:37:46 2013]
    Self-test 768K passed!
    Self-test 768K passed!
    Self-test 768K passed!
    [Wed Jan 23 15:53:43 2013]
    Self-test 12K passed!
    Self-test 12K passed!
    Self-test 12K passed!
    [Wed Jan 23 16:09:52 2013]
    Self-test 14K passed!
    Self-test 14K passed!
    Self-test 14K passed!

    Since I only get 2 fans, 2 hard disk, one dvd drive and GTX650TI video card.
    One of my friend said 550W PSU is far enough to carry these things. Right?
    May be I will remove the dvd drive, if the BSOD persist.

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    Re: Windows 8 keeps BSOD when using P2P and surfing net

    After 20 hours testing, It seems that the BSODs have gone. I dont know is it just the driver issue or the PSU. I will install back the software that I usually use one by one and test it.

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    Re: Windows 8 keeps BSOD when using P2P and surfing net

    This review from Guru3D states that only a 450W-500W PSU is required so you should be fine on that front:

    Sparkle GeForce GTX 650 Ti review - Hardware installation





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    Re: Windows 8 keeps BSOD when using P2P and surfing net

    I feel that a bit of discussion about PSU's is warranted here.
    PSU requirements are an estimate.
    If you have a bunch of equipment it will take more wattage than if you have very little equipment.

    If this is all the equipment that's taking power, then you're probably good if the PSU is performing as rated (many do not) and if it's not damaged or wearing out due to age (a common problem in some posts).
    Since I only get 2 fans, 2 hard disk, one dvd drive and GTX650TI video card.
    Don't forget that the things on the motherboard will suck up power, as will any plug in cards (both those on the mobo and those in external slots).

    But, I feel that if you were using Core Temp, MSI Afterburner and AMD Overdrive - that they were the most likely cause. Should you choose to reintroduce them - please do so one-at-a-time and watch carefully in case the BSOD's return.

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    Re: Windows 8 keeps BSOD when using P2P and surfing net

    Thanks kemical for providing this useful information.

    My PSU have been used for about 2years, I do not know it's getting aging or not.
    As Sonny suggest that, I cleaned the old flat cable plug which had been 10 years without cleaning. And switched the outlet to plug into. So, Would it be the problem of dirt on the flat cable plug causing BSODs?

    Thanks usasma , Your help is more than appreciate
    There are no external pci cards on my motherboard. I use on-board sound card and lan card.
    I have installed back core temp , Msi afterburner, nod32 and tuneup utilities one by one. and so far so good.
    The AMD Overdrive I will not install it back since I don't need to use it.

    I will test them for a much longer time and report back the results.
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    Re: Windows 8 keeps BSOD when using P2P and surfing net

    After 3 days of testing, it seems that the BSODs have gone.
    I have installed back core temp , Msi afterburner, nod32 , tuneup utilities, and Xunlei (a p2p software) except AMD Overdrive.Everything are working fine.
    It's very strange that what were the cause of my previous BSODs?
    Should I test it by installed back AMD Overdrive ?XD

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    Re: Windows 8 keeps BSOD when using P2P and surfing net

    The more stuff you put back on, the more likely it is that you will have problems.
    I wouldn't take the chance of installing AMD Overdrive. You already have one program that's known to be associated with BSOD's (MSI Afterburner) and one that may be associated with BSOD's (Core Temp). Adding AMD Overdrive is making it to complicated and may cause additional problems!

    Good luck!
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    Re: Windows 8 keeps BSOD when using P2P and surfing net

    BSOD Again!!

    When I was away from keyboard today for a dinner, BSOD had happened again!
    It's so frustrated to see that funny face always appear on my machine!!
    Here is the dump:
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    Re: Windows 8 keeps BSOD when using P2P and surfing net

    Your BIOS dates from 2010. Please check at the manufacturer's website to see if there are any BIOS updates available for your system. Also check the readme file to see if they apply to the problems that you are having. Please be advised that flashing the BIOS is a very unforgiving process - and one mistake can physically damage your motherboard.

    Please uninstall MSI Afterburner. It's the only suspect 3rd party driver in the dump.

    Another less likely possibility is your network driver (Rt630x64.sys). Please try replacing it to see if that helps.

    If all of this doesn't stop the BSOD's, please run Driver Verifier according to these instructions: Driver Verifier Settings

    Analysis:
    The following is for informational purposes only.
    Code:
    **************************Mon Feb  4 07:24:27.942 2013 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\Owner\SysnativeBSODApps\020413-17971-01.dmp]
    Windows 8 Kernel Version 9200 MP (3 procs) Free x64
    Built by: 9200.16461.amd64fre.win8_gdr.121119-1606
    System Uptime:0 days 8:00:00.671
    Probably caused by :fltmgr.sys ( fltmgr!TreeUnlinkMulti+47 )
    BugCheck 3B, {c0000005, fffff880014a5d77, fffff8800d8dedb0, 0}
    BugCheck Info: SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION (3b)
    Arguments: 
    Arg1: 00000000c0000005, Exception code that caused the bugcheck
    Arg2: fffff880014a5d77, Address of the instruction which caused the bugcheck
    Arg3: fffff8800d8dedb0, Address of the context record for the exception that caused the bugcheck
    Arg4: 0000000000000000, zero.
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x3B
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
    PROCESS_NAME:  ThunderPlatfor
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0x3B_fltmgr!TreeUnlinkMulti
      BIOS Version                  F8
      BIOS Release Date             10/11/2010
      Manufacturer                  Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
      Product Name                  GA-880GM-UD2H
    ииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииии``
    
    3rd Party Drivers:
    The following is for information purposes only.
    Any drivers in red should be updated or removed from your system. And should have been discussed in the body of my post.
    Code:
    **************************Mon Feb  4 07:24:27.942 2013 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
    ALSysIO64.sys                 Sat Jul  9 20:27:45 2011 (4E18F201)
    RTCore64.sys                  Tue Sep  6 08:24:50 2011 (4E661112)
    fltsrv.sys                    Tue Apr 10 09:23:29 2012 (4F843451)
    TuneUpUtilitiesDriver64.sys   Fri May 25 06:28:19 2012 (4FBF5EC3)
    snapman.sys                   Thu Jul 26 06:05:35 2012 (5011166F)
    amd_sata.sys                  Mon Sep 17 04:40:39 2012 (5056E207)
    amd_xata.sys                  Mon Sep 17 04:40:43 2012 (5056E20B)
    EpfwLWF.sys                   Tue Sep 25 12:08:58 2012 (5061D71A)
    epfw.sys                      Tue Sep 25 12:09:02 2012 (5061D71E)
    eamonm.sys                    Tue Sep 25 12:11:19 2012 (5061D7A7)
    ehdrv.sys                     Tue Sep 25 12:12:24 2012 (5061D7E8)
    Rt630x64.sys                  Thu Oct 25 05:14:58 2012 (50890312)
    epfwwfp.sys                   Fri Nov 23 08:38:01 2012 (50AF7C39)
    RTKVHD64.sys                  Tue Dec 18 08:15:57 2012 (50D06C8D)
    nvlddmkm.sys                  Sat Dec 29 01:47:52 2012 (50DE9218)
    
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ALSysIO64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=RTCore64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=fltsrv.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=TuneUpUtilitiesDriver64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=snapman.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=amd_sata.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=amd_xata.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=EpfwLWF.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=epfw.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=eamonm.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ehdrv.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=Rt630x64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=epfwwfp.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=RTKVHD64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvlddmkm.sys
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    Re: Windows 8 keeps BSOD when using P2P and surfing net

    It's very grateful to usasma that spending so much time for helping me analysis my PC problems.

    Since my motherboard Mfr. never update the bios after 2010/10/11, it's not possible to update it again
    GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket AM3 - GA-880GM-UD2H (rev. 1.3)

    I will totally uninstall MSI afterburner, re install the network driver (Rt630x64.sys) and try to test it for a longer time

    I have noticed a latest network driver from realtek 2013/1/31. Hope this help

    Thank you very much for your advice.
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