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Did you access the beta program and make your feelings plain there? Also there are plenty of tweaks before you need to start adding third party software like booting directly to desktop. Admittedly if you want a menu like windows 7 the your gonna have to install something or other to replace whats been improved on (my opinion).

Perhaps you are making too much of your view of the problem? You may have already read of various ways to make the "Metro" menu into a perfectly useable start menu, All your installed third party apps can be pinned in there. The shortcut to the legacy desktop is there also.But this is old news and the means easily found by googling or even perusing forums such as this. Since the first Windows release, I have, within moments of installing the OS, quickly turned to, and installed, my favourite apps - often replacing the built in ones, which did not come up to my requirements. As you refer to your professional software, I have to assume that you, also, install a number of third party programs to this end. What is your problem with installing a third party start menu, such as classic, (about 3 minutes) which takes you directly to the legacy desktop, so that you may never see the metro tiles again - that being your desire. Maybe you should look on this OS, also, from another point of view. It is the first one on the market, which has successfully offered a tablet/portable OS with the option to use it as a full desktop OS.

Windows XP UI, Good for PC.

Windows 8 UI Bad for PC.

Originally Posted by MikeHawthorne

Windows XP UI, Good for PC.

Windows 8 UI Bad for PC.

EXACTLY! win 8 is like the SUVs; Made to satisfy the weekend warriors who want to do some off road (smooth dirt roads) and the street driver who wants to sit higher than everyone else. SUVs are a compromise and win 8 is a compromise.

Some of the replies in here truly do suprise me. This somehow look to me like thread with 1 against Windows 8 (and before) & neutrals who are pointing out good & less good items regarding Windows 8.

I can understand that people who are new to Windows 8 do look suprised and confused at first sight, but, that's at first sight...

For example, I showed my dad (73 years) Windows 8 a while ago (Release Preview) and let him putter around it without giving any explenation... Guess what, he totally hated it and gave up soon after (same can be seen in many YouTube video's).

Though he used to work with Windows 7 for quite a while now, when Windows 8 got out I offered him to buy it now since it's very cheap and his Windows 7 installation got worse and worse (mostly due to malware/virusses that do leave there traces). I installed it for him, got his Office suit on it, configured his email.

When I brought him his laptop back, I just explained few basics regarding Windows 8 (remembering how he suffered at first try). 2 days later I called him asking if he had any problems whichever they may have been...

His answer in this was rather straid forward: He loved it, liked it, found it much easier to work with, lot faster and many items he had issues with before he now found easily.

What I'm trying to say in this is quite simple. Even though there are many people who "hate/dislike" Windows 8, there are also many people who "love/like" Windows 8. It's all a matter of opinion, personal experience, personal needs/requirements/desires. Some found it hard to abandon the "start menu" and to accept "start screen". Though in a way the Start Screen is the same, if not beter & even more intuitive.

You can put the tiles you want or remove what you want. So you can have the look you wish for. If you cannot find that in Start Screen, then use 3th party software which allows you to have what you want. Every OS has it's strengths and it's weaknesses. It's up to the user to make of it how they choose and how they like.

Labelling it as bad, horrible, worst OS ever, ..., ... is useless. Windows advances, technology advances. You can choose to either keep hanging with "old" technology or move on. Whether it is a Windows OS or other OS, people do have the liberty to choose and take the OS that fits there needs best.

I for one have also tried Windows 8 since the very first test version got out. At first I didn't liked it as well, I kept holding to the start menu which in first version was still available. But I moved on. I learned how Windows 8 worked, how the Start Screen worked. I don't find it a pain in the ***, I find it easier to work with, faster & saves me lots of time. Even though some software ain't compatible with Windows 8 at present time, they'll will in near future...

Thank you, TDB. We are seeing & hearing more & more comments like yours. The trend will grow. A bit more time, a bit more enlightened editorials, a bit more of people giving it a fair, open-minded go. I'll just add the Start screen and its Tiles can be used & become very appealing to many people. It is, also, easily possible to not use it AND not add any 3rd party (old start) things and still use Windows 8 very nicely.

But, already, (following Oct. 26th we are hearing more & more saying they like it rather than all the misguided, misinformed negatives being bantered about during the summer.

Thanks for your input. Your remarks are well put & valid. There certainly is more to be gained from being positive in how we look at and approach things; Windows 8 is no exception to that truism. Takes folks a while sometimes to see past or look beyond Start to things they may appreciate and enjoy in Windows 8

Cheers,
Drew

I searched the web for the so called advanced features of Win 8. All I found that was touted was the fast boot times. Will someone please actually give us the advantages (real ones) that win 8 has over win 7? If one insists that win 8 uses less resources then this is not an advantage per se as contemporary hardware can handle preety much anything one can throw at it as far as resources go. I use my PC with win7 for games and professional 3d solid modelling and rendering. Although I have the i7 920 with 6 gigs ram and gtx 560 GPU I have no problems with speed. Win 7 is slow when it comes to boot times but as a professional I only boot once a day.

Win 8 is designed for both touch screen (tablets and smartphones) and for PCs. Anyone who is in the products design and development field will tell you that such compromises always either gives an advantage to one over the other or compromises on all the differing uses this compromise is aimed at. Surely you all can see this.

I would like an unbiased comparison between win 7 and win 8. So far I have spoken to professionals and students who have actually tried win 8 and they have expressed their desire to remain with win 7. It is little wonder that about 26% still use win XP (mostly professionals) and over 47% win 7. Yes win 8 is new and is sure to gain more users but my point is that win 7 has been around for a while now and yet XP is still hanging on. The reason is win 7 got rid of classic start menu and most people do not know about the 3rd party software that bring back classic menus. Also the same goes for RIBBON.

Is it little wonder that the person who was responsible for the development of win 8 left MS?

Now for the UNBIASED comparison please

Originally Posted by tanzanos

Now for the UNBIASED comparison please

Since you always try to twist words of the onces who are replying to your questions, let me ask a different question... What is, from your point of view, the advantages of Windows 7 (or earlier) compaired to Windows 8...
And please don't come with Start Menu & not booting to Desktop straith away...

I will eagerly await your reply where you'll convince me Windows 8 ain't better then it's predecessors... Cause for now I haven't seen any valuable fact from you that confirms that.

Hopefull you'll provide me with some usefull answer regarding this, otherwise this is just something like feeding the troll... In other words, waste of time & completely useless...