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    Can't believe Win 8 does not support low res screens

    I upgraded wife's Netbook to Windows 8, verdict don't upgrade a Laptop with screen resolution of 1024 x 600 or less, the New Apps style interface will not work.

    Disappointed as the lay out and speed and ease of use is quite good, a little different from XP and Win 7 but usable. Basically they have made an operating system that will run on older machines and for there new Surface Tablet / touch screen Laptops but there software will not support small screens (it will run on Netbooks but you will not get the full experience that Win 8 has to offer).

    Microsoft assume everybody in the world will have the latest Hi Res screens, big mistake not supporting small Netbooks considering there popularity.

    I will be keeping Win 7 on my Laptop even though mine will support the full Win 8 software not really worth the upgrade for an existing machine.

    Save your money and wait until you upgrade you laptop and you will have Win 8 installed anyway.

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    Re: Can't believe Win 8 does not support low res screens

    It IS worth upgrading to Windows 8. And certainly, if the machine will support a resolution of 1366x768 or higher. Upgrading to Windows 8 while it can be done for only $40 + WMC for FREE ('til 31/1/13) is nothing but, smart or a 'no-brainer'; $40 is a lot less than the cost of a new laptop when the existing machine will run 8 very nicely. 8 is better than 7 both for its Features and for its technologies. Here are some links that discuss enabling Snap on low res machines,
    screen resolution for Snap - Bing

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    Re: Can't believe Win 8 does not support low res screens

    Eh Drew, been using Win 8 since like the second day Pro was available. I honestly can't see what you mean by this " 8 is better than 7 both for its Features and for its technologies." So far Win 8 has largely been a disappointment. It's not just that the UI is awkward and ugly. I'd used the Consumer Preview so I knew that already. I've already had to waste time, moving stuff I use a lot so I do not have to see that fugly Start Screen. I only bought it for this " 8 is better than 7 both for its Features and for its technologies." that I keep reading about. And I bought it because it's cheap. So far performance wise I've seen so little improvement over Win 7 that it really isn't worth mentioning. In fact, some things I do on 8, the main things I do, that I did on 7 actually perform less well on 8. That whole screen hogging App thing is a waste of space on my hard drive. Wouldn't be so bad if the apps could be custom sized or at least do a 50/50 split. So I do not even bother with the apps. When people ask me what I think of Win 8, I tell them I wouldn't do it again knowing what I know now. I'm trying to keep an open mind, but Win 8 just isn't living up to this " 8 is better than 7 both for its Features and for its technologies." for me. The only improvement is that the anti virus is built in. But seriously nothing I've seen in Win 8 says "upgrade" to me. It says "whew buddy, thank goodness you only flushed 40 bucks on this mistake." Here's hoping that MSFT does some work and actually puts some "Wow" into Win 8.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    It IS worth upgrading to Windows 8. And certainly, if the machine will support a resolution of 1366x768 or higher. Upgrading to Windows 8 while it can be done for only $40 + WMC for FREE ('til 31/1/13) is nothing but, smart or a 'no-brainer'; $40 is a lot less than the cost of a new laptop when the existing machine will run 8 very nicely. 8 is better than 7 both for its Features and for its technologies. Here are some links that discuss enabling Snap on low res machines,
    screen resolution for Snap - Bing

    Cheers,
    Drew

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    Re: Can't believe Win 8 does not support low res screens

    I will help people w/ IT issues, give out info & offer tips about various Operating Systems but, I will not argue.

    I started w/ the DP, then the CP, followed by the RP; plus through out the duration I was beta testing for Microsoft and ultimately potential End Users of the OS. I did the same work on Vista & Windows 7.

    I will stay a couple things & then move on to assisting others.

    Store APPs:
    1. They are optional. If a person doesn't care for them, they do not have to be used.
    2. Use of the Start screen is, also, optional.
    3. I struggle to know or image what you mean by "moving stuff" to avoid Start.
    4. You are welcome to think Start is ugly. But, that has little importance or significance since there is no obligation to use it.

    I don't find it ugly. I don't use the Start screen or Tiles much, at all, simply because I prefer staying on Desktop & accessing everything from there.

    5. APPS, if used, do not need to be used Full Screen, certainly not all the time. They can be viewed at the same time as Desktop.

    Awkwardness:
    In actuality, navigating Windows 8, especially depending on how it is used, is easier, faster, more convenient, fewer steps, fewer clicks than prior Windows OSs.

    After studying about Win8 from the kernel up, substantial other research & reading and my own A/B comparisons whilst dual-booting Win7 & 8, I am left knowing there are definitely improvements, additions, enhancements for both End Users & Enterprise in both Features & technologies. Whether one sees any of this or not does not negate its existence.

    I am ain the business of IT consulting & support so I tend to view the $40 as a bargain rather than a waste. But, indeed, everyone is entitled to their thoughts & feelings. Personally, I really enjoy how easy Windows 8 is to use & how well it does things.

    If you would be interested in some tips that may make your own use & experience w/ Windows 8 more pleasant & enjoyable, you just need to ask & I will provide them.

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    Re: Can't believe Win 8 does not support low res screens

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasGuy View Post
    Eh Drew, been using Win 8 since like the second day Pro was available. I honestly can't see what you mean by this " 8 is better than 7 both for its Features and for its technologies." So far Win 8 has largely been a disappointment. It's not just that the UI is awkward and ugly. I'd used the Consumer Preview so I knew that already. I've already had to waste time, moving stuff I use a lot so I do not have to see that fugly Start Screen. I only bought it for this " 8 is better than 7 both for its Features and for its technologies." that I keep reading about. And I bought it because it's cheap. So far performance wise I've seen so little improvement over Win 7 that it really isn't worth mentioning. In fact, some things I do on 8, the main things I do, that I did on 7 actually perform less well on 8. That whole screen hogging App thing is a waste of space on my hard drive. Wouldn't be so bad if the apps could be custom sized or at least do a 50/50 split. So I do not even bother with the apps. When people ask me what I think of Win 8, I tell them I wouldn't do it again knowing what I know now. I'm trying to keep an open mind, but Win 8 just isn't living up to this " 8 is better than 7 both for its Features and for its technologies." for me. The only improvement is that the anti virus is built in. But seriously nothing I've seen in Win 8 says "upgrade" to me. It says "whew buddy, thank goodness you only flushed 40 bucks on this mistake." Here's hoping that MSFT does some work and actually puts some "Wow" into Win 8.
    the main things I do, that I did on 7 actually perform less well on 8
    Which things don't work as well on Windows 8 for you?

    Wouldn't be so bad if the apps could be custom sized or at least do a 50/50 split.
    You can, move your mouse to the top left, and in the items that appear, drag one to center screen and you'll see.

    I think the frustration about Windows 8, is not because it's bad, but people don't have a full understanding of what it is capable of doing. You're forgetting many of the features that aren't part of the UI. In my opinion people get too distracted about the UI itself, that they forget to really take in the bigger picture of how the OS works on a core level.

    And believe me, I was never a fan of Windows 8 either for quite some time, before I really went to learn more about it, and that's all it really takes in my opinion to understand it. I've had everything from the Windows 8 dev preview, and all the builds up to Windows 8 and Windows 8 pro, and i've even tested the RT versions on tablets as well. My MSDN subscription allowed me to download Windows 8 Pro on August 15, 2012, so that's when I first started playing with it

    I just don't think people give Windows 8 enough of a chance. They might say they do, like I did, but really you've already made up your mind to hate it... Which won't help you. I didn't even know that the tileview had a search function in a period of 2 weeks time that I first had Windows 8, until I accidentally hit a letter key on my keyboard while it was open, and it automatically took me to the search bar which opened up on the right hand side.

    -Hyper-V
    -Microsoft account integration
    -New detailed TaskManager
    -Windows To Go
    -Windows Live Syncing
    -Improved and faster search performances
    -DirectX Desktop
    -Native USB 3.0 Support
    -Better multi-monitor support
    -Storage Spaces
    -More...

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    Re: Can't believe Win 8 does not support low res screens

    'AI',

    There's an echo in here... how often I have written previously echoing what you have said. Interesting ironic, that people whom I have shown them Win8 & guided them in its use, love it, are impressed by it and they voice none & have none of the gripes we hear from some (other) folks about the UI or a lack of anything, like Features or performance.

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    Re: Can't believe Win 8 does not support low res screens

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    'AI',

    There's an echo in here... how often I have written previously echoing what you have said. Interesting ironic, that people whom I have shown them Win8 & guided them in its use, love it, are impressed by it and they voice none & have none of the gripes we hear from some (other) folks about the UI or a lack of anything, like Features or performance.

    Cheers,
    Drew
    It's interesting that you can confirm this, because I believe this whole idea is true. As with anything that seems to be somewhat new, we always assume the question "Why do we need it?" because we don't really understand what all it can do, and it's human nature to assume things. (Usually negative assumptions, which is why we get ourselves into trouble with miscommunication and depression; unknown is questioned, and we always assume the worst over the best.)

    That evidence behind that concept has been recurring throughout experiences in my life lol, and I can't say that i'm a perfect person that doesn't follow that same trend, because I thought the worst about Windows 8 before I even really knew much about it. All because I lost my start orb, and start menu...

    Thanks for that

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    Re: Can't believe Win 8 does not support low res screens

    "All because I lost my start orb, and start menu..."

    Which turns out to be no loss @ all, eh, Ace? LOL

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    Re: Can't believe Win 8 does not support low res screens

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    "All because I lost my start orb, and start menu..."

    Which turns out to be no loss @ all, eh, Ace? LOL

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    Haha no...

    I actually like the way the tileview search works even moreso than my start menu. It's also faster, and the way it returns the results is also more organized in my opinion. They did their work on the search function for Windows that's for sure.

    I've always wanted to develop an application or a class at least that would be able to effectively enumerate the files through the $MFT. Realistically, against most traditional search methods, it would be in theory 10 times faster, especially in .NET conventions, it would be the fastest i'd be able to search the filesystem.

    As for resolution with Windows 8, I wasn't aware that Microsoft didn't allow support for lower res screens. My current monitor is at 1920x1080 I believe.

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    Re: Can't believe Win 8 does not support low res screens

    I have Windows 8 Pro on my MSI Wind netbook that used to run Windows 7. Before that I was using Windows 8 RP the Beta version of Windows 8. Metro apps have never worked on netboks but I don't want to use those anyway. If you want to run all of your software you use on Windows 7,that's fine you can.

    If you have the 32 bit version as I have you can run all of the old 16 bit apps on Windows 8. Such as Windows 3.1 software and Windows 95 games. As for the Metro theme,well I never see that, because I have got Classic Shell installed.
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