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    Re: Do Not Use CCleaner!

    Yeah me too. But I've found several very good programs that take out the trash, clean the registry of dead links, etc., and never cause me a problem. So I guess, each of us have to use what works best for us. Eh?

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    Re: Do Not Use CCleaner!

    Bump!

    One more program that I've tried on win-7 and Win-8 is the New and Improved version of an old favorite "Easy Cleaner" from Toni Arts.
    It was re-written to accommodate the weird format and registry in Vista, Win-7 and now Win-8.
    The older version worked with '98 to XP Pro with never a problem, even on my fully tweaked and tuned XP-Pro-SP3. But on Visduh and up, it kind of got "Lost in Space". The NEW and Improved version took care of the problem.
    Easy Cleaner is made up of several apps, even an Uninstaller and duplicate file finder. It does a great job of finding and removing JUNK files. I've used it on virtually hundreds of PC's, running every OS from '98 to Win-7 with narry a problem.

    It does a great job of cleaning bad links out of the registry, but does not re-compress it. I use NTREGOPT for that. Again, a program that's very SAFE and effective. And FREE!

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    Re: Do Not Use CCleaner!

    This problem still exists in CCleaner 3.16/Windows 8 Consumer Preview!
    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell_A
    Well guys, I finally nailed the problem on the head today (mind you, I could have last week if I wasn't so lazy):

    CCleaner (and any other registry cleaners) that scans for invalid shortcuts or application path references will delete three keys required by Windows 8 to display the metro CP, Windows Store and metro Remote Desktop. These keys are as follows:
    Please note that in CCleaner, the problem arises when the user scans for invalid Start Menu/Desktop shortcuts from within the cleaning dialog, not the registry scanner.

    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Windows Store.lnk\C:\Users\Mitch\Desktop\notused

    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Immersive Control Panel.lnk\C:\Users\Mitch\Desktop\notused

    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories\Immersive RemoteDesktop.lnk\C:\Users\Mitch\Desktop\notused

    So when using ANY registry cleaning software, be sure to look through the scan prior to removing keys and UNSELECT these three "invalid" shortcuts. Although, I still don't understand why this made the apps completely inaccessible (via some external links in the normal CP, etc) and quite frankly, I don't care.

    Thanks for your help guys, and I hope this solves the problem for others as well

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    Re: Do Not Use CCleaner!

    I've had this install now since Windows 8 CP was released. And CCleaner is one of my main apps, and has been for years. I've used the registry cleaner, but I always backup the repairs in My Documents.

    That being said, will I have problems with Windows 8 CP? I don't plan to go to the App Store anytime soon.

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    Re: Do Not Use CCleaner!

    Hey Cat:
    I think if you read Mitchell's careful and considerably in-depth analysis of this problem you will find that he has determined that the problem only occurs if you purposely select Start Menu Shortcuts under the "System" section of the Scanner (not the registry cleaner tool).
    I do not believe that is a default setting so running Ccleaner with defaults shouldn't be an issue.
    If you would like to examine the specifics of the issue yourself you can check the "Start Menu Shortcuts" checkbox and run Analyze (Do Not "Run Cleaner"). You will see the results include three files, if you double click that line you will see exactly the three files he has pinpointed.
    Uncheck "Start Menu Shortcuts" and close Ccleaner.
    Still a good product, you just need to be a bit careful as with all such products.
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    Re: Do Not Use CCleaner!

    Those boxes are pre-checked when one installs CCleaner. I uncheck a couple myself when installing. For the time being, I'll uncheck all of the "System" options.

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    Re: Do Not Use CCleaner!

    Trouble is correct, catt. The normal default, even if in the secure mode, is that those items are unchecked. By coincidence, I was installing new software on a computer, at the time these posts were made. I took the opportunity to look at the "presets" of a virgin install of Ccleaner.

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    Re: Do Not Use CCleaner!

    Randy
    You're right you do have to be careful with all of the registry cleaners. Some are a real disaster I learned the hard way. I've always had good luck with Ccleaner and the default settings. I think some people over estimate their computer knowledge when going into the optional settings. That and they obsess about cleaning every possible thing they can find They think isn't needed.
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    Re: Do Not Use CCleaner!

    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    Trouble is correct, catt. The normal default, even if in the secure mode, is that those items are unchecked. By coincidence, I was installing new software on a computer, at the time these posts were made. I took the opportunity to look at the "presets" of a virgin install of Ccleaner.
    It may have changed in the last few days. Those options where pre-checked when I installed CCleaner before.

    I need to install it on my fresh install of Windows 8 CP on my notebook. I'll look and see what's checked already.

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    Re: Do Not Use CCleaner!

    I have had absolutely no problems from or due to CCleaner. Other than disabling "Clear Jump Lists", it is being run regularly @ default settings.

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