And Win8 is far too superior to Vista to be another Vista.
I like Vista and still use it, it is a nice improvement over XP and sort of a pre-beta Windows 7, IMO.
Windows 7 slower than XP, , , sounds like something went awry,
I'm not a computer expert, IT Professional or anything like that, just average self taught, I have enjoyed the many changes in Windows over the years, never had any major issues with any version starting back with 98SE.
"A computer is only as infallible as it's user", keep this in mind and don't blame the OS.
Well put Adam. Agree. Same here.
Not only have they removed most option from Win8 but the ones remaining have been hidden so well that "Frustration" is too mild a word to use to describe how I felt when I tried out the Metro UI. I will not even consider Win 8 simply because I don't want to turn my PC into a smart phone.
Perhaps MS will heed our complaints and change win8, who knows; Miracles have been known to happen albeit extremely rarely! Cheers
Continuing to use XP, @ least, much longer, is being one's own enemy. If, I have to articulate all the many reasons why, I'm not sure there's enough time or ink. Which is not to say anything bad toward it... it is/was good but, it's time has passed. I liked it, too, but... I liked my grandmother who was a fine person, too. Not very relevant, now.
Now, I'll try (not sure why) to address 'tanzanos', again. Your analogy to suggest "flawed logic" is flawed. If, you want to try to put ME (yuck) in the same basket as Vista, that's a bit unfair but, be that as it may... the point was, ppl bad mouth Vista & if, one wants to say Vista had issues & bash it, that Windows8 is so much better than Vista, that to say, as was said in the earlier post, Win8 is or will be another Vista is not a valid statement. Win8 is very much superior to Vista on many levels & for many reasons. To not realise or see this shows a large lack of understanding or knowledge of Windows8.
To rant against the "metro UI" is downright silly. To write off, carte blanche, Windows8 over that screen is even sillier. In the 'big picture', relative to the rest of the OS, it's about as important as the 1st, outer layer of an onion's skin. I'm quite sure I've said this before, already but, still, I'll repeat it...
There only time I see it is @ start-up as I pass through it on the way to Desktop. Don't use it, don't need it, don't need to care about it or consider it a big, upsetting, bother. Live on & work from the good ole Desktop. The Start screen is not a big deal... UI = User Interface but, I doesn't even get used! Occasionally, I may use it to Search for something, though even that is not necessary...can do just as well Searching from Desktop. Or might go there to remove some tile for something that there is no need to have its tile there. Why get hung up over something that needn't be used? Makes no sense & bashing an extremely good OS over that 1 initial unneeded screen, makes no sense. There is a hell of a lot of good under the onions 1st meaningless, don't-need-to-use-it screen.
To condemn & ignore Windows8 because of its Start screen is grossly unfair & narrow-minded & not looking below or beyond the first layer of the onion or discover how to work w/out that screen... it IS possible, there IS the choice. I & others do it all day, everyday. & not cus we let it upset us but, cus can't justify bothering w/ it.
As for the language issue, as a Canadian, I fully agree. Windows8 can be in a huge number of languages. But, yes, when it comes to English, it does not, in terms of Spell Check use proper English but, rather American; and American spelling is not King's English. As a Canadian (w/ British background) I can, certainly, empathise. It is true, it does not offer the distinction between (proper) English & American (spellings).
There is, oft times, too much of a knee-jerk impulse to bash MS & MS products arbitrarily as if it's done just cus it's the cool, hip thing to do. Admittedly, sometimes it applies quite validly, like towards ME & Win7 was an improvement over Vista. Everything is relative. But, when ppl stop getting their vision blocked or clouded by the silly Star screen, maybe they could learn that there is a damn good OS under it. One that is better than even & & certainly better than Vista. And once ppl stop treating the damn Start screen like it's the be all & end all Windows8 likely will not be "a flop", @ all.
I'll have to help my clients w/ it so I'm glad I have not looked @ it w/ blinders on or a chip on my should or w/ prejudice or w/out looking below or beyond the surface. A good, open-minded attitude, plus using it non-stop since February has given me (& others) greater insight & awareness to its value & virtues than otherwise.
MS wants to impose the same OS in phones, tablets, and PCs; This simply cannot work no matter how "Powerful" the OS, simply because PC users use their computers differently and require a different concept to that of smart phones. Win8 hides everything and makes it a chore just to navigate. Win8 may be perfect for tablets and smart phones but to a professional who wants to use the computer as a tool rather than to post in Facebook; It is a nightmare!
Win8 is what Consoles are compared to PCs when it comes to gaming.
Win8 is simply HORRID!
Last edited by tanzanos; 05-12-2012 at 06:26 AM.
1st of all, I am an IT Pro. 2ndly you neglect to included all the praise Windows8 gets. Please don't project your feeling onto others. Let ppl have to right & freedom to judge something for themselves w/out trying to give them a negative bias beforehand. Many, many ppl, unlike you, actually like & see merit in Windows8. It is easy to find out how to use & navigate Win8... if, one bothers. It work very nicely on a regular (non-Touch) desktop or laptop. And for ppl who may be keen, open & interested to it, takes VERY little time to find one's way around it & personalise or customise it to one's liking. Have your opinion but, never mind trying to scare off others before they even look @ it. (Then) They may form their OWN view & feelings.
OK you do have a point but, Since Windows is basically a Monopoly; Something that should not have been allowed in the first place, then suffice it to say any company enjoying monopoly status and thus holding at "Ransom" its customers should cater to the needs of the ones who already own previous versions of their products and are basically being forced to change as support will cease in time.
My friend, all I am asking for is to have the option of classic menus and classic UI. If you watch the advertisement for W8 you will notice that it is mainly aimed at the multimedia, tweeter, facebook user.
I just found out that CLASSIC SHELL is now available for Win8 and this alone will be the criteria for me to make the step in the FAR future. Classic Shell was the reason I moved from XP to Win7. Why did MS get rid of this option? Cheers mate!