Thread: Windows 8 Consumer Preview Video Review with whoosh, kemical, and Mike

Originally Posted by Drew

Didn't say new necessarily meant better; different, maybe, better? Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But, time & computing technology marches on & OSs fade into history... that is just plain fact & a little acceptance goes a long way.

Had no social media (never touch the stuff) or frilly junk in mind.

And Win8 is far too superior to Vista to be another Vista.

Cheers,
Drew

This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista. - Windows 8 Forums

And Win8 is far too superior to Vista to be another Vista.

I like Vista and still use it, it is a nice improvement over XP and sort of a pre-beta Windows 7, IMO.

Windows 7 slower than XP, , , sounds like something went awry,


I'm not a computer expert, IT Professional or anything like that, just average self taught, I have enjoyed the many changes in Windows over the years, never had any major issues with any version starting back with 98SE.

"A computer is only as infallible as it's user", keep this in mind and don't blame the OS.

Don

Well put Adam. Agree. Same here.

Drew

Originally Posted by Drew

And Win8 is far too superior to Vista to be another Vista.

Drew

And Vista is far too superior to WinME to be another WinME? This is what is known as "FLAWED LOGIC"! Microsoft is notorious for enforcing trends; An example is the lack of British spell-check in Windows live mail. We are forced to use the American spell check and MS says that should we want British spelling then there is a way to merge it with the American dictionary?????? We as end users want the OPTIONS to be available to us. MS does not want us to have options and has gone the way of Big brother. If Win7 had retained the option of Classic Menus then I for one would be a very happy end user.
Not only have they removed most option from Win8 but the ones remaining have been hidden so well that "Frustration" is too mild a word to use to describe how I felt when I tried out the Metro UI. I will not even consider Win 8 simply because I don't want to turn my PC into a smart phone.
Perhaps MS will heed our complaints and change win8, who knows; Miracles have been known to happen albeit extremely rarely! Cheers

Continuing to use XP, @ least, much longer, is being one's own enemy. If, I have to articulate all the many reasons why, I'm not sure there's enough time or ink. Which is not to say anything bad toward it... it is/was good but, it's time has passed. I liked it, too, but... I liked my grandmother who was a fine person, too. Not very relevant, now.

Now, I'll try (not sure why) to address 'tanzanos', again. Your analogy to suggest "flawed logic" is flawed. If, you want to try to put ME (yuck) in the same basket as Vista, that's a bit unfair but, be that as it may... the point was, ppl bad mouth Vista & if, one wants to say Vista had issues & bash it, that Windows8 is so much better than Vista, that to say, as was said in the earlier post, Win8 is or will be another Vista is not a valid statement. Win8 is very much superior to Vista on many levels & for many reasons. To not realise or see this shows a large lack of understanding or knowledge of Windows8.

To rant against the "metro UI" is downright silly. To write off, carte blanche, Windows8 over that screen is even sillier. In the 'big picture', relative to the rest of the OS, it's about as important as the 1st, outer layer of an onion's skin. I'm quite sure I've said this before, already but, still, I'll repeat it...

There only time I see it is @ start-up as I pass through it on the way to Desktop. Don't use it, don't need it, don't need to care about it or consider it a big, upsetting, bother. Live on & work from the good ole Desktop. The Start screen is not a big deal... UI = User Interface but, I doesn't even get used! Occasionally, I may use it to Search for something, though even that is not necessary...can do just as well Searching from Desktop. Or might go there to remove some tile for something that there is no need to have its tile there. Why get hung up over something that needn't be used? Makes no sense & bashing an extremely good OS over that 1 initial unneeded screen, makes no sense. There is a hell of a lot of good under the onions 1st meaningless, don't-need-to-use-it screen.

To condemn & ignore Windows8 because of its Start screen is grossly unfair & narrow-minded & not looking below or beyond the first layer of the onion or discover how to work w/out that screen... it IS possible, there IS the choice. I & others do it all day, everyday. & not cus we let it upset us but, cus can't justify bothering w/ it.

As for the language issue, as a Canadian, I fully agree. Windows8 can be in a huge number of languages. But, yes, when it comes to English, it does not, in terms of Spell Check use proper English but, rather American; and American spelling is not King's English. As a Canadian (w/ British background) I can, certainly, empathise. It is true, it does not offer the distinction between (proper) English & American (spellings).

There is, oft times, too much of a knee-jerk impulse to bash MS & MS products arbitrarily as if it's done just cus it's the cool, hip thing to do. Admittedly, sometimes it applies quite validly, like towards ME & Win7 was an improvement over Vista. Everything is relative. But, when ppl stop getting their vision blocked or clouded by the silly Star screen, maybe they could learn that there is a damn good OS under it. One that is better than even & & certainly better than Vista. And once ppl stop treating the damn Start screen like it's the be all & end all Windows8 likely will not be "a flop", @ all.

I'll have to help my clients w/ it so I'm glad I have not looked @ it w/ blinders on or a chip on my should or w/ prejudice or w/out looking below or beyond the surface. A good, open-minded attitude, plus using it non-stop since February has given me (& others) greater insight & awareness to its value & virtues than otherwise.

Cheers,
Drew

Originally Posted by Drew

Continuing to use XP, @ least, much longer, is being one's own enemy. If, I have to articulate all the many reasons why, I'm not sure there's enough time or ink. Which is not to say anything bad toward it... it is/was good but, it's time has passed. I liked it, too, but... I liked my grandmother who was a fine person, too. Not very relevant, now.

Now, I'll try (not sure why) to address 'tanzanos', again. Your analogy to suggest "flawed logic" is flawed. If, you want to try to put ME (yuck) in the same basket as Vista, that's a bit unfair but, be that as it may... the point was, ppl bad mouth Vista & if, one wants to say Vista had issues & bash it, that Windows8 is so much better than Vista, that to say, as was said in the earlier post, Win8 is or will be another Vista is not a valid statement. Win8 is very much superior to Vista on many levels & for many reasons. To not realise or see this shows a large lack of understanding or knowledge of Windows8.

To rant against the "metro UI" is downright silly. To write off, carte blanche, Windows8 over that screen is even sillier. In the 'big picture', relative to the rest of the OS, it's about as important as the 1st, outer layer of an onion's skin. I'm quite sure I've said this before, already but, still, I'll repeat it...

There only time I see it is @ start-up as I pass through it on the way to Desktop. Don't use it, don't need it, don't need to care about it or consider it a big, upsetting, bother. Live on & work from the good ole Desktop. The Start screen is not a big deal... UI = User Interface but, I doesn't even get used! Occasionally, I may use it to Search for something, though even that is not necessary...can do just as well Searching from Desktop. Or might go there to remove some tile for something that there is no need to have its tile there. Why get hung up over something that needn't be used? Makes no sense & bashing an extremely good OS over that 1 initial unneeded screen, makes no sense. There is a hell of a lot of good under the onions 1st meaningless, don't-need-to-use-it screen.

To condemn & ignore Windows8 because of its Start screen is grossly unfair & narrow-minded & not looking below or beyond the first layer of the onion or discover how to work w/out that screen... it IS possible, there IS the choice. I & others do it all day, everyday. & not cus we let it upset us but, cus can't justify bothering w/ it.

As for the language issue, as a Canadian, I fully agree. Windows8 can be in a huge number of languages. But, yes, when it comes to English, it does not, in terms of Spell Check use proper English but, rather American; and American spelling is not King's English. As a Canadian (w/ British background) I can, certainly, empathise. It is true, it does not offer the distinction between (proper) English & American (spellings).

There is, oft times, too much of a knee-jerk impulse to bash MS & MS products arbitrarily as if it's done just cus it's the cool, hip thing to do. Admittedly, sometimes it applies quite validly, like towards ME & Win7 was an improvement over Vista. Everything is relative. But, when ppl stop getting their vision blocked or clouded by the silly Star screen, maybe they could learn that there is a damn good OS under it. One that is better than even & & certainly better than Vista. And once ppl stop treating the damn Start screen like it's the be all & end all Windows8 likely will not be "a flop", @ all.

I'll have to help my clients w/ it so I'm glad I have not looked @ it w/ blinders on or a chip on my should or w/ prejudice or w/out looking below or beyond the surface. A good, open-minded attitude, plus using it non-stop since February has given me (& others) greater insight & awareness to its value & virtues than otherwise.

Cheers,
Drew

You fail to mention the total lack of "Intuition" that is inherent in Win8. Most people who faced Ribbon and Win8 were totally at a loss and not to mention frustrated.
MS wants to impose the same OS in phones, tablets, and PCs; This simply cannot work no matter how "Powerful" the OS, simply because PC users use their computers differently and require a different concept to that of smart phones. Win8 hides everything and makes it a chore just to navigate. Win8 may be perfect for tablets and smart phones but to a professional who wants to use the computer as a tool rather than to post in Facebook; It is a nightmare!

Win8 is what Consoles are compared to PCs when it comes to gaming.

Win8 is simply HORRID!

Originally Posted by Drew

Oh, 'tanzanos', BTW, I am an IT Pro... I own an IT consulting & support company. Anyone think I'm the only, such (industry) person, who doesn't see Windows8 as a 100% negative?

Just saying...

Bad to make assumptions & there's always exceptions.

Cheers,
Drew

It seems that you are the exception Perhaps if you checked the thread in "general discussions - This will be microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than-vista". There you will read the opinions of IT professionals and others. Cheers mate and have a good day

1st of all, I am an IT Pro. 2ndly you neglect to included all the praise Windows8 gets. Please don't project your feeling onto others. Let ppl have to right & freedom to judge something for themselves w/out trying to give them a negative bias beforehand. Many, many ppl, unlike you, actually like & see merit in Windows8. It is easy to find out how to use & navigate Win8... if, one bothers. It work very nicely on a regular (non-Touch) desktop or laptop. And for ppl who may be keen, open & interested to it, takes VERY little time to find one's way around it & personalise or customise it to one's liking. Have your opinion but, never mind trying to scare off others before they even look @ it. (Then) They may form their OWN view & feelings.

Cheers,
Drew