Seven Forums

[Andrea Borman]

When did a start menu become a human rights violation? It's easy to see why she got booted from other forums.
Joe

If you are talking about Seven Forums. Well it is not just me that has been barred from there for no reason. I saw when I went on the site that Elmer and Dr Who who also is known as Old Timer on Windows 7 forums also got banned from Seven Forums.And they are both model members and have never done anything wrong.

And I have read that other people have been banned from Seven Forums for no reason,for doing nothing. So it's not just me that was banned from Seven Forums.

Seven Forums are just like that. They are very strict.

And I did not do anything wrong on Seven Forums.

A member posted on a thread that was about Windows Movie Maker 6 on Windows 7, that he liked one of my You Tube videos. And I responded back to him on the same thread,thanking him for liking my video. And for that they banned me. Andrea Borman.

[Elmer]

I personally don't mind being quoted as a refugee from SF.

If anyone posts a link to a useful tutorial, a certain member will plagiarise it and add it to his portfolio then re-direct the links to his so it can be (his words) "be kept up to date". I didn't realise Windows registry changed until I read that. So br*nk is a god (Oops! mentioned his name!!). Even nicked one of mine**. But I can sleep easy at night.

So. Andrea, you carry on. I don't agree with you on a lot (most). Your Court of Human Rights may be going a bit far. And as for having an unstable mind, does this mean that computers should have an ownership test? Who would pass?

Once MS controls which Apps you can use, then watch out. Big Brother isn't only about Government control.

(**Not true, was a member, who, once I was banned, "stole" my glass folders and put them on dA as his own.)

[Drew]

Elmer, that wasn't plagiarism! It was adding to something & in the name of teamwork AND I gave you credit for initially mentioning the material! Geeesh, man.

Ppl are having a hard time over Andrea, that's who they have been talking to Admin about for a long while. If, you want to defend or disagree w/ how ppl feel towards & about her, fine but, it is about her.

[Elmer]

Elmer, that wasn't plagiarism! It was adding to something & in the name of teamwork AND I gave you credit for initially mentioning the material! Geeesh, man.

Drew, I wasn't on about you.

[Andrea Borman]

I personally don't mind being quoted as a refugee from SF.

If anyone posts a link to a useful tutorial, a certain member will plagiarise it and add it to his portfolio then re-direct the links to his so it can be (his words) "be kept up to date". I didn't realise Windows registry changed until I read that. So br*nk is a god (Oops! mentioned his name!!). Even nicked one of mine**. But I can sleep easy at night.

So. Andrea, you carry on. I don't agree with you on a lot (most). Your Court of Human Rights may be going a bit far. And as for having an unstable mind, does this mean that computers should have an ownership test? Who would pass?

Once MS controls which Apps you can use, then watch out. Big Brother isn't only about Government control.

(**Not true, was a member, who, once I was banned, "stole" my glass folders and put them on dA as his own.)

Out of curiosity Elmer,why did they ban you from Seven Forums? Did they tell you why or did they not give you a reason. Just asking. Andrea Borman.

[Mike]

This entire conversation has been moved out of the Windows 8 discussion area as this has absolutely nothing to do with Windows 8 at all.

[davehc]

Plagiarism.
1. To steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own
2. To use (another's production) without crediting the source
3. To commit literary theft
4. To present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source.

The subject has come up before. I think Plagiarism will have to be redefined in respect of help offered on forums. The only applicable item, from my short list, is the fourth. But what is an existing source? Is anyone, keen to help, going to browse for half an hour to find that? I doubt it.
Over the years, even since XP, I have built up a n enormous folder on my computer, with hints and help. Often, when someone is requesting help, I refer to this. I have the knowledge, now, to write from the "top of my head", when required, but often do not see the necessity for it.
There is no problem, in fact it is gracious, to refer to a source, when suggesting a remedy to a problem, but, as I waffled, this is not necessarily the original source.
I have had tremendous help from the brilliance of the person already mentioned, but even he, if you study the tutorials, has had occasion to copy them from another source. But often, he has turned these around to produce the most beautiful pictorial tutorials. - I do not regard him as a plagiarist. In this case, I can often think of nothing better than to refer those requesting help as a link to the tutorial.
I, myself, wrote two original "hacks" for Vista, which can be used in Windows 8. One of these is widely used on an almost daily basis. It was an obvious registry hack to construct, and even as I posted for the first time, others testers were doing the same - Who had the original source?
fwiw. The problem has existed outside of the computer world, in the scientific are, since science began. But, as I have tried to outline, the internet view may require some legal modification of the definition. imo. no one can be sued for copying a help hint from another source.

[Drew]

Oh. Well, that's nice to know, Elmer. Relived, now.

[catilley1092]

I was banned from that site also, for no other reason than my current signature & avatar (which has been acceptable on most other forums that I'm a member of). On one forum (the MBAM one), I was told that my avatar & signature is a bit too political, and was removed, but I wasn't banned. Being that I'm not a truly active member there, it didn't matter.

Some forums are different than others, especially Seven Forums. Their definition of free speech is apparently different from most others. Oh, and don't even think of defending your point, even if it's the right one, against one of the mods, administrators, or their "MVP" (or whatever term they use for power members). Out the door you go.

My view of it is that if I'm not welcome, show me the door. I don't want to be where I'm not wanted. There's plenty of forums on the net, including this one & the Windows 7 Forums associated with it, that has welcomed me with open arms. And if anyone has a issue with me, that person can PM me about it. I'm not hard to get along with at all.

Cat

[Andrea Borman]

Yes catilley1092,Seven Forums are very strict and you cannot have a proper conversation over there.One word off topic and a moderator will come along and delete your post.

It was a really bad day for me as I got banned from 2 forums in 24 hours. First seven Forums for thanking a member on a thread for liking my video. And then Expert Law forums a few hours later for posting about my ban from Seven Forums.

And Seven Forums banned and did it in a nasty way. When I logged into the site 20 minutes after my post I got this ban message.

Seven Forums ban message-
You have been banned for the following reason:
Persona non grata.
Date the ban will be lifted:never.

I looked it up on Wikipedia,and persona non grata means person not welcome.

I think a moderator saw my videos or read my website or my posts on other forums. And did not like what he read or watched. And banned me for that reason,maybe.

But it seems that Seven Forums ban a lot of people for no reason. So I am not alone. Welcome to the club.Andrea Borman.